tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18748916.post1267267386794309762..comments2013-09-16T14:43:47.507-07:00Comments on All The World's A Game: Hey BabyJohnnemannhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14185694744317272366noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18748916.post-56992210284869865962010-06-07T23:25:00.984-07:002010-06-07T23:25:00.984-07:00I absolutely agree. I think it's not a very go...I absolutely agree. I think it's not a very good game and if it's to be considered any good it's not going to be for its gameplay value. If you're not going to at least discuss what it talks about what is it really good for?<br /><br />I'm settled on the whole if it's ok for strangers to shout things at people (in all seriousness men don't like it either) in the streetStephenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02180325668437665385noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18748916.post-18476095218558955662010-06-07T17:43:52.921-07:002010-06-07T17:43:52.921-07:00No problem, John. I just wanted to comment since t...No problem, John. I just wanted to comment since that particular narrative about Columbine has become accepted and repeated as the common wisdom in the years sense, and it's a bit frustrating since A) portraying that way can feed into the backlash you talked about, and B) it distorts the actual problem (which in this case was "simply" an undiagnosed psychopath and his depressive Trofim Lysenkohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06917214747971523593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18748916.post-82432498901966419852010-06-07T10:11:56.660-07:002010-06-07T10:11:56.660-07:00Thanks for clearing up that you didn't delete ...Thanks for clearing up that you didn't delete any blog comments, Leigh - I'm not sure why that guy thought his comment had been deleted from your blog.<br /><br />Sredni - Mill actually claimed we had an obligation to listen to alternative points of view, and believed in a fairly radical idea of free speech. And yeah, on some (ideally metaphorical) level, we should be thanking people who Johnnemannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14185694744317272366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18748916.post-51079302828379735422010-06-06T21:01:51.168-07:002010-06-06T21:01:51.168-07:00This has definitely been the best written piece on...This has definitely been the best written piece on the game in my opinion, thanks for writing it up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18748916.post-81909967679428763682010-06-06T19:18:39.115-07:002010-06-06T19:18:39.115-07:00I just wanted to make a tangential point. You ment...I just wanted to make a tangential point. You mentioned Columbine High School, and the idea of the revenge fantasy against bullies made real. There's a problem with that though. That had nothing to do with Columbine, and NEVER DID.<br /><br />The image of Harris and Klebold as low-on-the-totem pole social outcasts and geeks is one created after the fact, and has more to do with movies like Trofim Lysenkohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06917214747971523593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18748916.post-59885781874929664052010-06-06T13:14:45.477-07:002010-06-06T13:14:45.477-07:00When both Kieron and I came out to talk about the ...When both Kieron and I came out to talk about the game, what we received was a bunch of comments to the effect of "women actually like being catcalled" "women are too sensitive" and "how the heck am I supposed to talk to a girl, then?"<br /><br />Those are the kinds of things that were not welcome to be discussed. You're right; the game was just a catalyst, and SVGLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01255708263722096867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18748916.post-12712461126841620522010-06-06T07:40:37.086-07:002010-06-06T07:40:37.086-07:00There's a difference between censorship and re...There's a difference between censorship and refusing to provide a platform, though. I don't see anything wrong with the second one.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08039069246580269364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18748916.post-22784201604279615832010-06-06T07:34:03.117-07:002010-06-06T07:34:03.117-07:00@Snedri Actually, I think Mill probably would have...@Snedri Actually, I think Mill probably would have been ok with that manner of nonsense. In 'On Liberty' he explains the tyranny of the majority and censorship pretty explicitly by saying we have no right to silence anyone, no matter how hateful and vile their cause, right up to the point that they endanger someone's well being. So you can stand on a soapbox and rant about what an Tom O'Bedlamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18748916.post-35609850069123420572010-06-06T06:41:35.080-07:002010-06-06T06:41:35.080-07:00i think you misunderstand what was meant by those ...i think you misunderstand what was meant by those 'don't disagree' type comments. i believe they meant 'don't be a misogynist because it is wrong.' its like saying 'don't kill people because it is wrong.' i would class the hatred of a gender amongst those universal human wrongs such as theft, murder, discrimination, etc (note that i don't put them all on srednihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00646871912540084440noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18748916.post-69515104908567640702010-06-06T05:33:57.565-07:002010-06-06T05:33:57.565-07:00Surely there is a time and place for discussion th...Surely there is a time and place for discussion though? And I think (hope) that you've merely fallen at cross purposes with Leigh and Keiron. From what I gather, you're saying "the game is shit, and so misses the point". What perhaps the other side is hearing is "the game is shit because of the subject matter." (and that is indeed what a fair few people are saying. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08039069246580269364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18748916.post-49534254870570034432010-06-06T05:18:36.464-07:002010-06-06T05:18:36.464-07:00Excellent article, you've expressed exactly wh...Excellent article, you've expressed exactly what I wanted to say about this issue. The main complaint I've had is the "You can either agree with me or be wrong" line.Tom O'Bedlamnoreply@blogger.com